Society and Government: Armed Liberal makes the following comment:
I don't know much about Ayn Rand, so I can't say whether this is a fair treatment of Objectivism. But I can say that nobody in the contemporary political landscape really thinks like this.
Conservatives are often denounced as favoring a kind of social Darwinism--getting rich without responsibility, and ignoring the needs of the poor. This is nothing more than a crude slander. Conservatives are generally strongly in favor of faith and family; in other words, of traditional communitarian values. This is especially true of the dreaded "religious conservative," who is absolutly certain to share AL's belief in mutual obligations.
The real political fight is not over whether society has any obligations to its weakest members; everyone agrees that it does. The question is whether government is the appropriate venue for the fulfillment of these obligations, and more particularly, whether the Federal government should play Robin Hood.
I like and respect the Armed Liberal, and I believe that his comment was sincere. He was careful to say "fans of Ayn Rand" and not "Republicans." But often--even most of the time--comments like this are either pompus moral preening or cynical manipulation. They are made by people who equate "society" with the Federal government, and hold that those who oppose income redistribution orchestrated by Washington, D.C. are morally inferior.
I agree that each of us has obligations to others imposed by an implied social contract. I believe these obligations to be prior to any government, and their fulfillment to be a moral duty. But I also hold that society is distinct from government, and that confusing the two is one of the great failings of our political debate. I further hold that social obligations should be enforced by social means, that is, we should criticize and shun those who refuse to give to charity, but we should not extract money from them by force. (And in a comment directed at Republicans: we shouldn't be legislating about their sexual proclivities, either. But shunning and shaming, in accordance with moral conviction, is OK, if annoying.)
The point is, that society has coersive powers, but in the end it is mostly voluntary. That's the way human interaction should be. Government is by nature physically coersive, and it should save that coersion for things that really deserve it. This helps both to maximize liberty and legitimacy. Nothing makes people hate government more than being told to do something they don't want to. A good utilitarian case can be made for government welfare, but the Kantian "moral imperative" stuff just doesn't fly. It's offensive and ultimately indefensible.
Ayn Rand fans see a society of autonomous individuals who were born, fully formed like Athena.
Other folks (me) see people who are part of a larger group of people and who have reciprocal obligations which extend both laterally, and backward and forward in time.
I don't know much about Ayn Rand, so I can't say whether this is a fair treatment of Objectivism. But I can say that nobody in the contemporary political landscape really thinks like this.
Conservatives are often denounced as favoring a kind of social Darwinism--getting rich without responsibility, and ignoring the needs of the poor. This is nothing more than a crude slander. Conservatives are generally strongly in favor of faith and family; in other words, of traditional communitarian values. This is especially true of the dreaded "religious conservative," who is absolutly certain to share AL's belief in mutual obligations.
The real political fight is not over whether society has any obligations to its weakest members; everyone agrees that it does. The question is whether government is the appropriate venue for the fulfillment of these obligations, and more particularly, whether the Federal government should play Robin Hood.
I like and respect the Armed Liberal, and I believe that his comment was sincere. He was careful to say "fans of Ayn Rand" and not "Republicans." But often--even most of the time--comments like this are either pompus moral preening or cynical manipulation. They are made by people who equate "society" with the Federal government, and hold that those who oppose income redistribution orchestrated by Washington, D.C. are morally inferior.
I agree that each of us has obligations to others imposed by an implied social contract. I believe these obligations to be prior to any government, and their fulfillment to be a moral duty. But I also hold that society is distinct from government, and that confusing the two is one of the great failings of our political debate. I further hold that social obligations should be enforced by social means, that is, we should criticize and shun those who refuse to give to charity, but we should not extract money from them by force. (And in a comment directed at Republicans: we shouldn't be legislating about their sexual proclivities, either. But shunning and shaming, in accordance with moral conviction, is OK, if annoying.)
The point is, that society has coersive powers, but in the end it is mostly voluntary. That's the way human interaction should be. Government is by nature physically coersive, and it should save that coersion for things that really deserve it. This helps both to maximize liberty and legitimacy. Nothing makes people hate government more than being told to do something they don't want to. A good utilitarian case can be made for government welfare, but the Kantian "moral imperative" stuff just doesn't fly. It's offensive and ultimately indefensible.
